I joined another art forum not long ago. I recieved an email letting me know there was to be a drawing challenge from a ref photo. It was started by IslanderNl. I am happy that I found out about the challenge before it was over. I had not checked my email for a couple weeks. I had a choice of three photos to choose from. Green tomatoes on a vine, a gosling in her hands, or some kind of mill with much too much perspective. I chose the gosling and posted it today.